Seil Chat

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I hope the hero screaming round the bay an hour ago in between all the moored boats on a jetski has adequate 3rd party insurance to compensate anyone whose boat he might wreck.

- NickB

I beg to differ.

It's like that down here at Ellenabeick all summer with these big RIBS constantly back and forward !!

Where's Ellenabeick?

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I beg to differ.

Well you would, wouldn't you?

All right, I'll rise to the bait. Care to elaborate? Do you approve of uninsured drivers as well?

- NickB

Of course not.
I differ because I have a sense that your original post regarding the lad's insurance (which he does have btw) was a disguised whinge about locals using jetskis.
If that is the case then I make three points:
1. The waters around Seil are for everyone to use, not just yachties.
2. The jetski concerned is probably worth more than many of the sailing boats which disfigure the bay......which should really be only used by the fishing boats, as in the past.....I'm sure he would not wish to write it off by colliding with a yacht
3. Its long been a a bit of a game amongst locals of winding up yachties. He was only having a bit of fun.

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Well, I was only a bit wound up as I wasn't on board at the time and the guy seemed to know what he was doing. There have been a few horrendous accidents in recent years involving jetskis though, and they are not always piloted by people familiar with the sea. If it is someone local then I am sure they know what they are doing and of course they have as much right as anyone else to enjoy the water. I am afraid I assumed it was a visitor as it is such a rare sight here. I wouldn't like to see loads of holidaymakers bringing jetskis with them though - would you?

Your comments about yachts are just silly, and this time I do refuse to rise to the bait.

- NickB

Blubber - you knew what I meant!!

Nick B, it seems to make too much of a difference to you whether the guy's local or not! How does being local mean that he knows what he is doing?! Or otherwise! The fact is that, no matter the type of vessel, it is both courteous and normal good practice to travel slowly through any anchorage, whether occupied by fishing boats or yachts. This convention ensures safety and environmental wellbeing for all concerned. In short, the guy racing amongst the boats sounds like a discourteous twerp, just as you initially implied. Clearly a relative or friend of Longshanks then........

Come on Guys

straight collision between Boat, Yacht. or Jet-Ski theres only ever going to be one winner.surely even this water- bourne Twonk(Whoever he is) knows that. so apart from the skier were only talking about dented Egos.

Teddy :

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Yeah, you're right - fortunately they usually hurt or kill themselves rather than other people, but the potential for a lot of damage to other vessels is still there. The bigger fishing boats are probably pretty safe, but Jetskis are quite solid and can do a lot of damage to wooden and fibreglass hulls - not at all difficult to do thousands of poundsworth of damage or even sink a smaller boat. See HERE for an example of a boat hit by a jetski.

As Spiderman says, screaming round an anchorage or among moored vessels at high speed in any type of craft is simply poor seamanship and asking for trouble. The only difference that being local makes is that they presumably have a little more understanding of the sea and boats than someone on their once-yearly hols to the seaside.

(Or maybe not . . . )

- NickB

Someone told me that the same jet-ski was towing a water-skier through the bay over a week ago! Even more dangerous and decidedly dumb, eh?

The poor Bas$%^& was only having a bit of fun and did anyone get hurt??? Yup, someone could have but thats the same risk you take when you drive your car to Oban. Why don't you all lighten up.

Furthermore, I think all the fishing boats in that bay are fiberglass, and a wooden yacht (built well) would surely come out on-top of a jet-ski, nay?

There's a lot of poo-pooing going on...

That kind of response is just SO typical !

Nobody objects to anyone having fun - but when it effects someone elses work, property or enjoyment then a reasonable tolerance has to be found for all concerned parties involved.

Why should we put up with anothers thoughtlessness

Hi Sally.

Laissez-Faire. ;;let things pass or leave alone except when it refers to my property;::::

NIMBY by any other name.
Teddy

Teddy, dear Teddy - firstly I'm sorry you didn't twig my mildly sarcastic sign-off......
secondly - Balvicar ain't my backyard! - my remarks are not even to do with Seil or Argyll or Scotland!!
It's all to do with a lack of regard for others.
I hope, Teddy, that you're now clearer on my stance....

Car driving A to B can be pretty boring, but get on a track, and be a bit of a hooligan and it can be fun

I suspect just riding a jetski round and round on the open water is pretty boring too, so they need the thrill of ducking, diving, twisting and screaming past objects to give a thrill.

A car is a useful means of transport so doesn't have to be thrashed around a track to be justified. But a jetski is not generally used for transport, only for a thrill. Designated areas should be set up for them where they can dodge in and out of markers (set up like a race track if you like) and avoid endangering themselves or other innocent parties.

PP, I agree 100%. How about asking the Eastenders' guy with all these buoys near the Addam's family to set a course up and down the sound there? Would keep the funny folk in that row occupied.

Are you quite sure you are feeling well Spiderman, agreeing with me?

How selfish...well then, why don't we just do away with anything remotely dangerous or fun and all live in Nazi ghettos like Easdale island...

Seriously, that's the way some of you sound - I hope you're just pretending to have those warped and arse holeish views...