Birds

[Foxglove]

Oh I'd keep them in check of course...old fashioned values and taught manners by my parents. What is wrong with a society that lets the young ones know what is acceptable behaviour? Obviously that is open to interpretation. I firmly believe that kids need discipline...and sometimes a good kick up the bum [metaphorically speaking of course in case I get arrested lol!]

[Just a gimp]

Time for a new thread??? I'm game

[Maggie]

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NickB, are you trying to make some kind of relevant point. If so I fail to see it. Can you explain?
Why are a couple of the people here, admitedly, anti-middle class and middle age? I don't get it. Are they trying to make this place even more divisive than it already is?
And what is the "rot" which has set in?

mags

[Tony the Toad]

Aye, and who keeps the middle class and middle aged in check? Buying up housing stock and/or forcing up house prices and making it unaffordable to the ‘working class’ young, then thinking they can tell the young how to behave i.e. according to their own ‘middle class’ values. The ‘rot’ sets in when the middle class denies the working class the chance of a decent start in life…

[Maggie]

Aye, and who keeps the middle class and middle aged in check? Buying up housing stock and/or forcing up house prices and making it unaffordable to the ‘working class’ young, then thinking they can tell the young how to behave i.e. according to their own ‘middle class’ values. The ‘rot’ sets in when the middle class denies the working class the chance of a decent start in life…

Tony, I think you need to give some real life examples of how I and other middle class people on Seil "tell the young how to behave i.e. according to their own ‘middle class’ values".
Also how "the middle class denies the working class the chance of a decent start in life"
You only go into one specific; " Buying up housing stock and/or forcing up house prices and making it unaffordable to the ‘working class’ young". Please understand that owning your own house has never been a working class aspiration in Scotland. The working class tend to be renters. Please also research why houseprices rose so rapidly over the last decade.
Regarding house prices here the most common argument I've heard is that its incomers buying the houses which has made them unaffordable. Its a two way things; locals took the money, they asked the high prices.

I can recognise full well the agenda behind the three/four posters on here who are intent on attacking middle class people on this forum and further dividing this place; same old, same old.

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[Tony the Toad]

Well, for a start some, some middle class people expect working class people not to want their own houses, but to rent instead...

[Just a gimp]

But then the rents are so high, just plain greedy if you ask me.....some folk own several houses, outbidding the young and denying them the chance to get on 'the ladder'. They then have to become part of an association and part own, part rent, works out very expensive and where is the sense in it? Sometimes these properties are built on bogland or condensed into mini schemes, what choice do the young have?
For those fond of ledgislation, perhaps it is time for a few more rules, that should please some of the members.

[Minimum]

I was young once - thankfully!

[Just a gimp]

Me too.
My children managed to grow up here, have fun, campout and be have freedom without having to be watched over by bigbrother and stunted by rule after rule after rule [most of them brought in by middleclass meddlers]
They are all well mannered, respect older people and work for their livings.
How on earth did I manage it?

[Husker Doo]

Iwas at a fund raiser at hall last week there was a lot of young folk there and alot of drink being consumed and some fighting too it was like the old days when they had real stuff going on in the hall bloody brilliant
I wentto the festival of the sea recently and was suprised that it had no younger folk there it wasnt a festival more like a funeral

[Maggie]

stunted by rule after rule after rule [most of them brought in by middleclass meddlers]

Gimp; you really do need to give a few specific examples of these "rule after rule, most of them brought in by middle class meddlers" if you are persude us that you have a genuine point and are not merely troublemaking.
I await your response with interest.

mags

[Beetlejuice]

Ummm ...
how far have we got

here??
Myself, I think the boards outside the shop are interesting and positive as regards recording the birdlife and other wildlife we have here. (Remember the Clachan windfarm ...? We may need this information at some stage.) People are adding in their sightings to share with everyone else. Alright, some people take the p*ss with what they write on there, of course; but what's the problem?? It's just a bit of fun, and entertains us.
Definitely time for a new thread if people really want to discuss the iniquities of the middle-aged-middle-class-incoming-English-drive-up-the-price-of houses-holiday-home-owners-deny-young-people-opportunities-to-buy ... etc. etc. etc.
We've already been there before, haven't we?? ... Blaaah ... Boring.
So off you go on a new thread, then, if that's what you want to blether on about.
The rest of us will just leave you alone to moan, and wander off to enjoy ourselves looking out for wheatears, starlings, swallows, oystercatchers, buzzards ... you know ... interesting things, out there in the real world.

[sleepy]

I was told there were a couple of proper bustards outside the Oyster Bar last night........................ I think that's what they said??

[Husker Doo]

mmm beetlejuice im trying but you annoy me,i remember a lady called mrs o`hara her family was mentioned by neil munro in para handy tales she was from luing and she made wooden lobster creels for anyone who wanted them back in the day. She knew what wood to use to make them she knew where she could get feathers to make lures for saithe. That beautifull old woman knew about trees and wildlife because her mother taught her as my father was taught by his mother that knowlege is passed on whilst being carried on your fathers shoulders across a boulder beach on summer holidays not by lists on a fence.
I dont want to be taught wildlife i left school a long time ago and dont talk to me about the festival of the sea and 55 year olds singing sea shanties either.

[MsAnnThrope]

Husker, ya dancer!

[Just a gimp]

Husker................
you are a breath of fresh air

[Maggie]

stunted by rule after rule after rule [most of them brought in by middleclass meddlers]

Gimp; you really do need to give a few specific examples of these "rule after rule, most of them brought in by middle class meddlers" if you are persude us that you have a genuine point and are not merely troublemaking.
I await your response with interest.

mags

Well Gimp we can only conclude from your inability to "give a few specific examples of these "rule after rule, most of them brought in by middle class meddlers" " that you are a mischief maker.
As you are incapable of explaining why you dislike the middle aged and the middle class then we can also conclude that you have some kind of a chip on your shoulder probably driven by being stuck on the bottom rung of society and jealously of those more successful than yourself.
I feel sorry for you.

mags
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[CHAVTASTIC]

Husker and anyone else who doesn't like it - Don't F**in' read it!!!! You are hardly forced to read the bloody things!!!
I go in the shop on a number of occassions a week - I have looked at the boards only 2 or 3 times since they have been there (originally only one board) - and didn't notice my arm being bent up behind my back in doing so!!

Get a bloomin grip, you are pathetic and you got me I suppose!!

[Minimum]

Some folk seem to forget that once upon a time people who rented affordable social housing decided to buy them and many then sold the houses to move on. Some houses were sold for a good price to second home owners. I don't think the sellers felt the need to keep the prices low so that other locals could benefit from cheap housing.

[Just a gimp]

A huge thank you Maggie
You are demonsrating beautifully with your confrontational demeanor and constant baiting exactly the sort of mindset possessed by those of the meddling middle class variety, usually lacking in wit and a with a total inability to live and let live.
Incidentally, one doesnot always have to be English to possess these dubious qualities, there are prats in any nationality.
Alas snobby too it seems, I have been deemed a social misfit whatever that maybe and on the botton rung as well, scuse me while I open another buckfast.