Seil Chat

Had a look on the web site..... found this wee gem.

"Publicity
The group now provides regular material to the Oban Times and the 'For Argyll' website with a summary of the
monthly evening talks. The success of these talks lies with the quality of the speakers, all have invested a large
amount of time and effort to present the group with an interesting range of natural history topics. Please set
aside one Tuesday evening a month to continue support for this activity held at Seil Island Hall, Ellenabeich.
On learning about the group's activities, Lynda Henderson of the 'For Argyll' website sent the group an email
including the following comment - 'This is a seriously significant group and its work is of interest to a wide
audience'. Having established links to these media outlets, the group now has the opportunity to extend its
sphere of influence."

Is the last sentence a mission statement........

While I suspect that the group can be regarded by some as being a bit too pushy and overactive, I also believe it makes a very positive contribution to the intellectual mix on Seil and to environmental awareness. I am not a member of the SNHG and have no wish to join its anorak army but I do defend its right to exist and to flourish here. And, from that point of view, I'm more than happy for it to represent us Seileachans in providing some intelligent ecological balance. KAPPOOOOOW! What's your point, 7th? Are you just showing your usual chip-on-shoulder?

I'm a member of the "anorak army" and proud of it.

I've learned a lot about our local natural heritagefrom attending some of the meetings and walks. In turn this has increased my appreciation of our environment and made me realise just how lucky I am to live here.

Is the last sentence a mission statement........

I'm sure there are plenty who have benefitted from the diverse range of talks of natural history in the area however..
I think what Seventh was referrring to is that we have yet another unelected body claiming rightly or wrongly to represent us. When SNHG choose to get involved in 'politicking' you have to remember they have no mandate to speak on Seil's behalf and their options do not neccesarily reflect the view of all those on the island..or elsewhere.

Good point, Eric.

Please tell me when/when/how the SNHG hve ever claimed to represent you?

I belong to a group of folk with a particular interest. Shocking isn't it?

they have no mandate to speak on Seil's behalf

I think you'll find the SNHG speak on behalf of SNHG, a perfectly respectable group, that most would say of, "good on them". At least they try to contribute and project the area in a positive light. I suspect that the balance of opinion would frown on those who have nothing better to do than than pick holes in every type of community effort like this. Hang your head in shame Eric and Seventh.

The SNHG is welcome to represent its interests in any sane way
it chooses,

Pheasants aside someone has to do what they can
the local ecology is not expendable wherever you are.

Teddy

I certainly won't be hanging my head in shame as I've said nothing to be ashamed about - I think you guys have missed the point by a country mile

If you took the time to read what I said I haven't anything against the SNHG

..it's the extending the sphere of influence bit that bothers me - Why?...and to what end?

Cyber colonialism?

We have vays of making you comply Eric.
might send Mona round with the boys

Teddy

"the local ecology is not expendable wherever you are."

Just our fisheries then...

canUsmellthat wrote:"the local ecology is not expendable wherever you are."

Just our fisheries then...

What's happening to our fishery? Have I missed something?

The origins of this thread, it seems to me, hangs upon the interpretation given to the phrase ‘extend its sphere of influence’. Bearing in mind that this phrase relates to the preceding mention of establishing links with ‘media outlets’ it simply means, on my interpretation, that the SNHG group and its aims now have the potential to become known to more people.

In this way, by kicking off this thread, Seventhseil has also helped the SNHG to extend its sphere of influence .

Further to this the main protagonist of SNHG is involved in a new enviromental "Umbrella group" called LEAF involving those who were developing the MNP.

LEAF as in Leafmarque, Linking the Environment And Farming? In a country where kids think milk is made in a machine, bacon grows on sheep,etc, it's about time country bumkins helped the townies learn a thing or two. Good on them.

Strikes me there's some kind of personal thing going on here.
What on earth is the problem?
SNHG is merely a group of locals who love the environment here and get together regularly to explore and enhance their knowledge. Good for them. I see absolutely no indication that they believe that they represent the rest of us. They just have a peaceful and worthwhile pastime.
Their website
http://seilnature.spaces.live.com/default.aspx
is a work of art, probably the best on the island, and it shows Seil in a very positive sight to prospective tourists (our lifeblood).

Green Shanks (naturist by choice)

Pentlandpirate wrote:LEAF as in Leafmarque, Linking the Environment And Farming? In a country where kids think milk is made in a machine, bacon grows on sheep,etc, it's about time country bumkins helped the townies learn a thing or two. Good on them.

LEAF as in Lorn Environmental Action Forum

From the 'forargyll' article:
This is a new umbrella organisation encompassing all environmental issues and groups within the Lorn area. Initial member groups range from Sustainable Oban, the local Scottish Wildlife Trust group, through to the Hebridean Partnership, Scottish Centre for Geopoetics, Seil Natural History Group and some of the Fisherman’s Representatives.

The purpose of the forum is to create a voice on the West Coast of Scotland, representing those who support management of the natural environment in ways that favour long-term sustainability on land and sea.

Good to see the fishermen are represented.

Missed that - who exactly is representing the fishermen then?

Perhaps someone can elighten me - all I can find about this is "the meeting was also attended by some fishermen’s representatives" - Hardly constitutes fully paid up membership?

fishing again Eric

Just to be clear there is no personal aspect to what I am saying. The word is that the SNHG and LEAF are trying to gain support for what will eventually be a Marine Park by another name, my point was the same groups that were involved in the instigation of a marine park are involved in this. This suggests that the SNHG is not just trying to gain added membership to show people our wild life, but actually want to represent "Seil". As we have dodged the bullet of the MNP once it seems daft that we will have to fight it again.

As we have dodged the bullet of the MNP once it seems daft that we will have to fight it again.

Does Seventhseil represent you?