Seil Chat

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8476238.stm

What a load of utter crap!

In the 1970’s when the ‘UK’ was actually under a more significant threat of ‘terror’ (albeit still a pissy wee one) did we run around squealing and making up silly wee rules and changing the way we lived?

No!

So, therefore, tell the media and the politicians to go away and stop being terrorists themselves...

The 'Detroit' Christmas Day case is proof that they are still trying to create a 'spectacular'. Remember the terrorists only have to get it right once, whilst the security services have to get it right every time to prevent people like you and me being killed. Yes, it would be nice to not let the terrorists win by disrupting our freedoms and lifestyle, but the threat of them killing and maiming is too great to ignore.

Frankly I am more fed up with the PC brigade who object to the body scanners as an invasion of their privacy and a risk to their children.

It was inexcusable that the Detroit bomber got on the plane. As Obama said, " we must do more..." and that's why the threat risk is raised to ensure things don't slip through.

In a world where companies forbid staff to use a toaster in their break at work, or to use a step ladder without training, or take an aerosol deoderant with them to the rigs, for Health and Safety reasons you can't say that airport security procedures are extreme!

Not really talking about that specifically, more the general aura of hysteria being whooped up by media and politicians alike. Not that I’ve been watching Charlie Brooker at all this week or anything:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... Episode_1/

And then, for example, there’s this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/2 ... lan-drones

And the ‘health and safety’ scenarios aren’t really, at bottom, ‘health and safety’ scenarios, more to do with insurance companies becoming more and more draconian and less willing to pay out.

And what’s any of this got to do with ‘political correctness’? Other, perhaps, than this:

"Political correctness is one of the brilliant tools that the American Right developed in the mid-1980s, as part of its demolition of American liberalism. . . . What the sharpest thinkers on the American Right saw quickly was that by declaring war on the cultural manifestations of liberalism — by levelling the charge of “political correctness” against its exponents — they could discredit the whole political project."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2001 ... race.world

The more hysteria stirred up my media and politicians, the higher the stakes are raised. The more power politicians contrive to seize, the more likely a few people are to be persuaded by others to try to bomb planes in the first place. But it keeps the media and the politicians happy, as it does the arms manufacturers, I suppose. While endangering people more, too.

Reza Aslan’s book How To Win A Cosmic War: Confronting Radical Islam: God, Globalisation and the End of The War On Terror gives alternative strategies to those being currently pursued by the West.

Sorry Peter if I went off topic but I would thought

and making up silly wee rules and changing the way we lived?

was a general reference to the loss of freedom, largely attributed to laws for 'political correctness'.

Perhaps it's all part of the cycle of hype and hysteria which will eventually bring out the frustration in the masses leading to a Revolution to correct it all!

I live in hope.

Aye, indeed. We can but hope...

[quote="Pentlandpirate"]will eventually bring out the frustration in the masses leading to a Revolution..... I live in hope./quote]
Over many years I've occasionaly heard these sentiments and have always dismissed them as idle daydreaming.
But; I wonder.
Having no revolutionary bent myself I find a British revolution hard to envisage.
Would people be killed?
Would property be destroyed?
Who would run Britain once the revolution had succeeded?
What would the major changes be?
Where would the likes of yourelf and Peter C end up? In charge? Living in the manor houses confiscated from the rich?
I'm not sure that we do revolution in Britain. How would you arm the masses? etc etc.

Ho Longshanks

No one will be killed (this is a British Revolution)
No proprety destoyed (vandals were from Europe)

Once the Revolution has succeded.
Although there may be a 5 year queue to stand behind the New non elected leader?
Nothing will discernably change.
Many who are politically indifferent wont even notice.
A sort of quietly boring Animal Farm scenario ,with no violence.
May be we could ignore them to death chaps?
Arm the masses with education:most wont use it.
Arm the auxilliaries with indifference and then
Oh sod it forget the idea it`s too much trouble anyway.

Teddy