Seil Chat

I see the NHS is under fire again, this time from the Patients Association:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... posed.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8223710.stm

I enclose a link to PA’s list of Corporate Members, without which they would ‘be unable to continue [their] work on behalf of all patients’. No hidden agendas there, then. Pah.

http://www.patients-association.org.uk/ ... te-Members

Shocking revelations Peter.
Thanks.
No wonder there's such an outcry in America against Obama's plan to introduce NHS healthcare in the U.S.

Dr Shanks76 (secretely in love with Janet, by choice)

The entire report is based on 2% of patients believing the care they received was poor.

As at least 2% of the population are likely to moan about anything I would say it was a reasonable result.

Organisations like this need to publish something titillating now and then to justify their existence.

I wonder what the figures are for Private Hospitals?
Personally, I believe that those who opt out of the NHS by paying for Private Health Insurance should have their taxes reduced accordingly. Why should they pay for something they're not going to use.
Similarly for Private Education. If you pay school fees for your kids then you should receive a tax rebate of the equivalent of cost per pupil in a state school. Why be forced to pay for something you don't use. Only fair, eh?

Nurse69 Shanks 88 (fair tax for all, by choice)

Aye, well, maybe if folk didn’t have to pay for other things they didn’t use, like Trident, then maybe there would be fewer people feeling they would get better medical and educational services elsewhere in the first place.

I totally agree with you again Peter.
Why should we pay for Trident if we don't use it; seems such a waste.

Peter C wrote:if folk didn’t have to pay for other things they didn’t use, like Trident

. I say "use it or lose it".

Dr StrangeShanks34 (target acquisition by choice)

Boom Boom.

The Torygraph is outraged again
shame the only real contribution they make is indignation

Perhaps it would be great to publish the odd positive story
but no thats not news

The NHS is not perfect
The American Healthcare system is great (If you are wealthy)
bu crap if your not

And if we really want to destroy all of this we have
MANDLESON THE PRINCE OF EVIL WAITING IN THE WINGS
Come back GUY FAWKES ALL IS FORGIVEN

TEDDY

I've been to hospital a few times and in my personal experience the NHS has always had me treated and on my way just fine........I am still here and almost everything accounted for. I must be in the "lucky" 98%.

However, I have been told by people who have worked in the non-medical side that the bureaucracy within the NHS is completely out of hand with far too many people employed to carry out too few jobs within the offices. Supposedly this is where a great deal of the intra-NHS strain comes from (not to mention over-paid hospital administrators). Add to that very high doctors wages (don't get me wrong, it looks like a hard job on ER and the UK supposedly pays lower wages than many countries, but they are high, especially in comparison to nurses) and ever increasing costs to pharmaceutical companies for new, although often only marginally better drugs, and things get expensive on the hospital side. You can't just blame the hospitals though, the UK public has to take its fair share of the blame for drinking, smoking and over-eating related problems, which are really swamping the system. If all these costs weren't crippling the NHS, maybe they could spend more staff performance.

I'm off point though. I reckon if 2% of nurses are crap and abusive, it's better than the percentage of British bankers.