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Bonfire
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:34 pm
by Seil Sally
I'm sure I'm not the only person who is disappointed to have missed the Balvicar Bonfire. From what I hear it was quite well attended, and those I spoke to said it was an enjoyable evening.
Just a pity it was SO poorly advertised!!
...even if it had a little mention on here I'm sure "crowd" numbers would have increased!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:12 pm
by novus ordo seclorum
Maybe SS but do remember that Bonfire Night is very much an English event celebrating, as it does, the foiling of a plot against the English Parliament in 1605; a time when we were independent with our own Parliament. Hence the event has, historically, been of little relevance to Scots.
I do feel, however, that is wonderful that our modern, multicultural Scotland encourages the celebration of events such as this and others like Diwali and Ramadan. It shows that we are becoming a more mature nation able to celebrate (as well as tolerate) its inate diversity.
Just as an aside you may find it interesting to know that there was a time (mid to late eighteenth century) when bonfires were lit annually in Glasgow and Edinburgh to celebrate the defeat of the Young Pretentender. That tradition is remembered with a certain amount of horror by some scots today who have swallowed the myth that the 15 and the 45 were wars between Scotland and England, fought for Scottish independence; something they patently were not. C'est la vie.
NoS
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:26 pm
by canUsmellthat
I believe one had to be invited to the Balvicar do. Fair enough really as the host put on free booze, free food and an amazing fireworks display.
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:33 pm
by Me?
Controversial!!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:57 pm
by spiderman
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:41 pm
by canUsmellthat
Only controversial if you're not a local...
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:00 pm
by Seil Sally
- I was only talking about standing at a bonfire, sparkler in hand, watching some colourful rockets. No political agenda here!!
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:00 am
by novus ordo seclorum
SS - standing happily beside a bonfire atop which an effigy of an historical figure burns can be seen as a political act...for similarities (albeit a tad extreme) think of the bonfires in Ulster in July.
Spideman old chap; I take your point to an extent but I think its not the ridding of a London Parliament in 1605 which is relevant to Scots but rather the creation of an English Parliament today and all that implies for our sovereignty.
NoS
Create, don't break!
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:17 am
by spiderman
Sometimes to create, you have first to break!
bonfire night
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:27 pm
by tinkerbell
i hear lochgilphead put on a good show on Saturday night, perhaps going there would have been an idea SS...no invitation required. I also heard that Oban's display was good, glad to hear they r back on after a couple of years.
Sadly, I have been unable to attend any fireworks, as getting to them are dangerous....you just don't know where one will go off, could b very close to me whilst in transport so safer to stay in and watch from my window!!
NoS...very political kinda guy...what profession r u in, teaching perhaps??
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:15 pm
by Eric the Viking
NOS Teaching?
Odin save us all!
I suspect NOS is retired, on a comfy civil service pension - giving him plenty time to give us lessons in the history of these sceptered isles.
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:57 pm
by spiderman
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:45 pm
by Me?
Smart-arse spidey? You probably just got all that info from a well known internet reference site!!
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:01 pm
by spiderman
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:01 pm
by Seil Sally
Whilst I completely understand your view, Spidey, I think what we have to examine are the alternatives:
taking it to the dump - not without a little "token" by pre-arrangement
binning it - don't think so!! - our bin-men would faint at the thought!
throwing it onto the shore from the carpark at Easdale - mmmmmmh!
throwing it in the quarry.........mmmmmmmh!
....so it looks like I'll have to continue burning!!!
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:28 pm
by spiderman
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:50 pm
by Seil Sally
(....as long as you ensure there are no hedgehogs 'mongst your pile of leaves!! )
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:17 pm
by spiderman
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:59 pm
by Eric the Viking
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:08 am
by tinkerbell
So you've both had bonfires in the past and not invited the whole island?