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Too wee, too poor, too stupid . . .
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:12 pm
by NickB
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Too wee, too poor, too stupid . . .
Is it just me, or does anyone else find Longshanks' and the Pirate's arguments against independence to revolve exclusively round these three concepts ?
Lots of other countries Scotland's size or smaller, with considerably fewer natural advantages, seem to manage their own affairs.
Do you really believe Scotland is incapable of doing the same ?
Re: Too wee, too poor, too stupid . . .
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:36 pm
by PentlandPirate II
Fortunately it is just you and a minority of people that still think it's better to have an independent Scotland. There has never been any debate whether Scotland could exist on its own, it's all a matter of whether people genuinely prefer to go it alone and break away from a place they have regarded as home all their lives. The vast majority of the people in this island (UK) see themselves as part of one nation, with friends are relatives in all its corners, no separating boundaries. There may be problems, things that aren't perfect, but the British are a tolerant lot who generally look on the brighter side of life. Most people are reasonably content with the status quo. It's always been just a minority who moan and whinge and agitate and blame others for their malcontent.
Re: Too wee, too poor, too stupid . . .
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:17 pm
by NickB
PentlandPirate II wrote: . . . it is just you and a minority . . .
I've got news for you Pirate.
Two thirds of the Scottish population are fed up with the status quo and want Scotland to have more control over her own affairs.
Democracy will prevail in the end.
Re: Too wee, too poor, too stupid . . .
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:43 pm
by PentlandPirate II
You would bet on it would you?
http://betting.betfair.com/politics/gen ... 4-186.html
I don't think so. You've already declined Longshank's bet
Re: Too wee, too poor, too stupid . . .
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:06 pm
by NickB
PentlandPirate II wrote:You would bet on it would you?
You are missing the point. (Again!)
There is no way to bet on devo-max (one third of the two thirds) because Westminster refused it as an option on the ballot.
However, if we are talking purely about independence then I have a small wager on with Paddy Power at 4-1 for YES .
It will keep me in beer for a few weeks.
Re: Too wee, too poor, too stupid . . .
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:39 pm
by NickB
PentlandPirate II wrote:The vast majority of the people in this island (UK) see themselves as part of one nation, with friends are relatives in all its corners, no separating boundaries.
The Scots don't.
In the 2011 census when asked if they regarded themselves as 'Scottish only', 'Scottish and British' or 'British' 62% of Scottish people said that they considered themsleves "Scottish only".