Seil Chat

So your sudden conversion to a pro-independence stance is just a load of Armitage, Shanks. You don't like Salmond, you don't like the Nats, you don't like PR, you don't like Holyrood and you think separation (an emotive word in itself) would be wrong at this time.

You are about as pro-independence as Annabel Goldie, but with even fewer policies that make sense for Scotland. Please spare us any more of this pointless pontification.

Lets All Face it

Nanny if she ever existed has thrown the Brat out with the bathwater long ago

Salmond if he ever existed has proven that the Scots do need the English

Brown whoever he is has proved that no politician can ever be trusted

And if the Royal?? Bank of Scotland was ever worth a damn it isnt now

Building societies were the old remedy still seem to hold more of a common sense approach to lending
until of course taken over by banks??

How many of The Banks have politicians on the board
(or at the TROUGH)

Sadly the English need the Scots and Vice Versa
Neither country is big enough to go it alone
No one country has the nouse or money to be truly independent


:English Flag :jack

SO LETS ALL GO DOWN TOGETHER OR PERISH IN THE UNITED ATTEMPT NOT TO

Blimey Blubber, something's rattled your cage!
1. No sudden conversion..I've always been in favour of independence and that means seperation; see all my previous posts.
2. I now believe we should delay the vote due to the current Depression.
3. I used to like and admire Salmond, no more due to his failure to deliver flagship policies and not to accept the blame for nondelivery.
4. I do like Nats (except the ones with beards who manage to put Bannockburn and 1966 into the same sentence and then start the next sentence with "The English stole our oil.."
Your other points are correct.

Shankers (seperation by choice)

4. I do like Nats (except the ones with beards who manage to put Bannockburn and 1966 into the same sentence and then start the next sentence with "The English stole our oil.."

....and even I would agree with this.

Glad you two see eye to eye! From your pics, you seem both to suffer from common eye problems. Just like these 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDldZrAeZQ8

"The English stole our oil.." I don't think any one would agree with that but the London (British) government played down the value of it and the civil service changed the regional territorial waters around Scotland to read "UK" at around the same time as oil started to flow and the first devolution debate was taking place......

Then used the revenues to prop up our failing economy......which sounds very familiar...

From an English perspective :English Flag

Maybe the oil was a common resource :jack

maybe the resultant revenue went into a common purse
maybe scots parliament was funded from same

Maybe not

Still the politicians stayed at the trough

And no matter how we complain

nobody will change it in retrospect

OIL REVENUE DWINDLING

DEVOLUTION WOULNT CHANGE A THING

HAVE YOUR OIL IF YOU TAKE YOUR PRIME MINISTER WITH IT
IT WAS NOT THE ENGLISH THAT VOTED HIM IN
COME TO THINK OF IT NO ONE DID (EXCEPT THOSE ALREADY AT THE TROUGH)
BUT STRIKE A BLOW FOR US ALL---PLEASE VOTE HIM OUT WHEN YOU CAN



ISNT WHAT WAS A BALMORAL NOW CALLED A" GORDON BROON"??

teddy

Seventhseil wrote:"The English stole our oil.." I don't think any one would agree with that ...

Try listening to one of the bearded and bitter Nats I mentioned

Seventhseil wrote:used the revenues to prop up our failing economy.

Seems like an eminently sensible use of the tax revenue from British oil. What would you suggest, not support the economy and let it collapse?
How's your class war going Seventh? Going to back MacB's "new order" when he discloses it? Orf wiv their eads!

Long March (paper tiger by choice)

How utterly strange.
First NOS deletes his opening post with no explanation causing a tad of a furore then my good friend Mona points out:

MonaLott wrote: If you go to the UK Government’s new "real help now" website launched recently by Gordon Brown, you will find that it lists SNP Government action, such as the Council Tax freeze and flexible business support, as key efforts being taken in the UK to help the economy through the recession.

So I take look.
Crikey!
All reference to Scotland, let alone the SNP, has been deleted from the site !!!
http://www.realhelpnow.gov.uk/
Look Mona! Its all gone!
Has NOS been hacking Crash Gordon's spin, I mean web site? Are zaNu-Labor now trying to wipe Scotland from the history of The Great Crash of 2009 (thus covering up for any Scot's involvement)?
Tellyawot...I'm spooked.
Finally, a new member (welcome by the way) suddenly starts posting on this forum under the name "reality_check" (blimey!) showing an unhealthy interest in the perfidity of Israel and the innocence of Iran.
Hey; your vicarliness, what's going on? Can we expect to see the four horsepersons next?

Worried Shanks (gone to ground by choice)

Perfidy of Israel I think you mean. Nice to see some education however.
Oh and the innocence of Iran.

I am only looking at the evidence in the public domain dear chap not heresay....

Hearsay I think you mean.

Well thanks for that mona...was that all you had to add to the discussion?

Irony, sunshine. I think you'll find I started this thread and have contributed throughout. I just thought that a newcomer shouldn't be getting bogged down so soon in correcting folks' spelling. It's a kind of perfidy. We don't usually stoop to such depths.

It was actually an important point. Dear.

Yawn

Um the bit about SNP freezing council tax being on the real help now website and then dissapearing 24hrs later has been on the BBC news over the last week..... some people should listen to the news....

Seventhseil wrote:Um .... some people should ....

Yes I do...

Its not often, these days, that I visit this chatroom hence a belated explanation as to why I deleted my original post; after a brief reflection I had second thoughts because I noticed that the Independent had edited some of Lawson's most contentious words and phrases. The original included "thieving Scots", "North Britain" "Hibernia" and others. I also worried slightly that by posting the article some of the more vociferous members of this wee community might lose their cool a bit and we might get some anti English versus anti Scottish postings. So I deleted it.
NoS