Taliban

[Peter Connelly]

Found this on Wapedia:

‘The basic accounting relation for population dynamics is: N1 = N0 + B − D + I − E
where N1 is the number of individuals at time 1, N0 is the number of individuals at time 0, B is the number of individuals born, D the number that died, I the number that immigrated, and E the number that emigrated between time 0 and time 1.’

Plus morality…

(My guesswork on the test came out considerably lower than chance would have predicted. )

[DiscoClint]

I agree that population control is a necessity.

however, it must be carried out with great care. I saw a movie called "Idiocracy" a while back which deals with the dumbing down of the human race. It's a pretty silly film on the whole, but the first 5 mins was promising, puts forward an interesting point, and can be seen here:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2682654/i ... _sequence/

Basically you have to make sure everyone on earth follows population control or the uneducated will outbreed the educated, resulting in a population of idiots.

[Herby Dice]

Basically you have to make sure everyone on earth follows population control or the uneducated will outbreed the educated, resulting in a population of idiots.

Some might argue that this has already happened......

[longshanks]

Basically you have to make sure everyone on earth follows population control or the uneducated will outbreed the educated, resulting in a population of idiots.

Some might argue that this has already happened......

Blimey; I seem to agree with you here Messrs Dice and Clint (sp) !
Your theories neatly explains why there are so many more lower class people around nowadays, and much fewer Upper Class.
I wonder if Eric was intrduced to the formula by his Dr. and if he has any more useful formulae or skills? Phrenology could be one of them, perhaps.

Cedric Shanks (bred by choice)

[Eric the Viking]

Phrenology could be one of them, perhaps.

Yes I'm skilled in phrenology - and have already spotted a rare specimen of Megacephalum longshankius on Seil. They're quite easy to identify really as they're the only ones that need a crowbar to get they're big heid out the door of the TnT!

[longshanks]

Crikey !
And I thought we were trying to stop personal abuse on this forum:

a rare specimen of Megacephalum longshankius on Seil. They're quite easy to identify really as they're the only ones that need a crowbar to get they're big heid out the door of the TnT!

The abuse is the accusation that Longshanks is big-headed !
He tries to get away with it by using a couple of smilies and a red herring knowing that I haven't frequented the TnT for many months.
Now, I'm totally in agreement with Mr Admin that personal abuse is not acceptable. I'm prepared to let it go this time Eric, knowing your circumstances, but abuse me again and I shall hit the "report post" button.

Mellow Shanks45 (Birds by choice)

[Eric the Viking]

Quid pro quo Armitage

[khartoumteddy]

By now it would appear
That the only thing that remains unresolved
Is the resolution of the problem

Teddy

[Seil Blubber]

Yes I'm skilled in phrenology

Have you considered reverse phrenology, Eric?

(This is the process whereby the subject describes the personality he would prefer and the practitioner puts the lumps on his head in the appropriate places)

[khartoumteddy]

baseball bat psychology
ive seen it applied its not pretty
still if you think it`ll help
the standard fee is i believe about £3000.
for the first hit as it were

TEDDY

[DiscoClint]

By now it would appear
That the only thing that remains unresolved
Is the resolution of the problem

Teddy

Of course. There are only 2 options:

1 - Eradication of the idiots

2- Sterilization of the idiots

However, they both pose some rather challenging ethical problems. Not to mention, where do you draw the line?

I'm off to do a suduko and drink some fish oil. I want to be a breeder.

[Eric the Viking]

I think both these options were tried in many non-RC western nations in the early part of 20th C. and culminated in the Nazi's eugenics program - and we all know how that ended.

[khartoumteddy]

Option 4 ;Re education
Option 5;Transportation to Australia
TEDDY

[DiscoClint]

Oh OK. I'll lock the rifle back up then. You're right. Got to be more creative.

Education (or re-education) is rather tricky. How do you get people to listen that haven't paid attention in the past? A breeding license is an interesting idea, but how do you make people (without a license) adhere to it?

Maybe we need to reverse the current government policy of rewarding those with a lack of contraceptive care with flats and money.

[khartoumteddy]

educating politicians
theres an oxymoron
TEDDY

[longshanks]

tried in many non-RC western nations in the early part of 20th C. and culminated in the Nazi's eugenics program

This statement demands explanation as it reads like a terrible slur on countries which are not roman catholic, namely that Protestant countries practised :
"1 - Eradication of the idiots
2- Sterilization of the idiots"
If that is what you're trying to say either give proof or withdraw your attempt to incite religious hatred.
(Its your focus on what you call "non-RC countries" which is so disturbing and insulting)

Padre Shanks (religiously tolerant by choice)

[Eric the Viking]

No slur intended - simply the facts.

What did you teach anyway? - it certainly wasn't history!

Didn't your special friends across the pond tell you that:

The USA funded Germany's eugenic institutions. By 1926, the Rockefeller Institute alone had donated some $410,000 -- almost $4 million in 21st-Century money.

and the United States Supreme Court endorsed aspects of eugenics. In its infamous 1927 decision, Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote, "It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind…. Three generations of imbeciles are enough."

Aside from the USA eugenics programs including forced sterilization existed in most Northern European countries, as well as other more or less Protestant countries. Some programs, such as Canada's and Sweden's, lasted well into the 1970s. Other countries that had notably active sterilization programs include Australia, Norway, Finland, Estonia, Switzerland, Iceland, and some countries in Latin America. In the UK, Winston Churchill introduced a bill that included forced sterilization. Writer G. K. Chesterton led a successful effort to defeat that clause of the 1913 Mental Deficiency Act. The Roman Catholic Church has been a notable opponent of eugenics and sterilization programs.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_sterilization

I'm sure you can google for more info but just in case here's a couple of snippets to get you started:


http://hnn.us/articles/1796.html

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=2 ... e=20051221

[Seil Blubber]

Its your focus on what you call "non-RC countries" which is so disturbing and insulting

Is moral outrage your new hobby, Longshanks? You don't sit well on your high horse.

I think Eric's point was that RC countries have a different attitude towards any technology that in any way usurps what they see as God's power to create, modify or destroy life. This includes eugenics as well as the more familiar birth control and abortion issues.

[khartoumteddy]

[quote="It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind…. Three generations of imbeciles are enough."

Lets not get into that one with any small rural community
and society cant cure politicians of which one generation is too many.

TEDDY

[Eric the Viking]

What's wrong - Cat got your tongue, Shankers?