Foreshore fencing

spiderman · Post by **spiderman** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:52 pm

Nick B says "How come at least two landowners on Seil appear to be getting away with fencing off the foreshore to below the HW mark?"

I agree. Please discuss......

canUsmellthat · Post by **canUsmellthat** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:10 pm

Does one of these people occupy a niche at Cuan? More white settlers methinks!

dubhsgeir · Post by **dubhsgeir** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:49 pm

C'mon don't be so coy tell who the dastardlys are .

Post by **Herby Dice** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:00 pm

It was the badgers. Not fences at all - otter traps. All part of the deadly war fought recently between those two evil species.

Seil Sally · Post by **Seil Sally** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:25 pm

.....but surely if the land isn't securely fenced right into the sea, the livestock will escape at low tide ???? - common sense is it not???

Post by **NickB** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:13 pm

Possibly so . . . livestock in these parts do tend to have semi-aquatic habits. When they come across such a fence on pasture land walkers will usually just climb over it, as they do with other livestock fencing - no problem so long as they are careful and don't cause any damage. (More stiles on Seil would be nice though, saves wear and tear on fences and trousers!)

I was however thinking more of private houses, with no livestock, just nasty PRIVATE - KEEP OUT notices on the fences. No-one can legally claim ownership of the foreshore between high and low water (with a few odd exceptions).

The fence at Cuan prevents anyone walking from Cuan round to Ballachuan, which I believe used to be a popular walk.

Nick

canUsmellthat · Post by **canUsmellthat** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:05 pm

I believe there might be a human down that neck of the woods with Nazi tendencies. I have certainly climbed over fences there and have been involved in altercations for my trouble. They did, however, make the walks much more worthwhile!

NickB, how about you and I head down one weekend? We'll take siege engines and sort this out!

Seil Sally · Post by **Seil Sally** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:52 pm

Typical!!! - most of us try to get on whilst CanISmellYou is openly inviting others to inflame what is apparently a contencious issue!

This isn't Toxteth!!

Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:07 pm

At the risk of someone pressing NickBs button:

No-one can legally claim ownership of the foreshore between high and low water (with a few odd exceptions).

Here's what the crown says:

Foreshore and seabed - Ownership
18.2 Crown rights and Crown grants

In the absence of evidence to the contrary, the foreshore and seabed are presumed to belong to the Crown. No recorded or registered title will be held by the Crown.

The Crown’s right to divest itself of ownership is subject to the Crown’s duty to protect the rights of the public in the sea and tidal rivers. These rights are principally the right of recreation and navigation and the right to catch certain types of fish.

18.4 Express titles

It is possible for titles other than those deriving from the Crown to include foreshore or seabed expressly in the title description. However, given the nature of foreshore and seabed and the fact of the public’s inalienable rights, it can often be difficult to show that the infeft proprietor has fulfilled the requirements for possession in section 1(1)(a) of the Prescription and Limitation (Scotland) Act 1973.

Access is, or should be, available on foot along the entire coasts of Scotland by access rights. Exceptions include some urban areas, ports, power stations, military land, wildlife reserves and estuaries.

I think yer man's just another Nimby trying it, WS or otherwise he should be told in no uncertain terms to 'sling his hook'

Post by **NickB** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:59 pm

I knew that but assumed everyone else did as well.

Maybe the guy at Cuan is royalty?

NickB

Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:03 pm

King or Queen?

Royal paininthearse more like!

moonraker · Post by **moonraker** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:03 pm

leave him alone he is not doing any harm.. maybe he is very bad for sleep walking .. why must he be a white settler.. surely this is a racist remark on our fellow countrymen

canUsmellthat · Post by **canUsmellthat** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:32 pm

That's not what I heard...

Seil Sally · Post by **Seil Sally** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:05 pm

that's not what I heard

If you believe everything you hear on this island then you must know me by now - the indignant, snobby, hypocritical, married-3-times tart who lives in the house that Robbie Burns bought for 6 shillings from Bonnie Prince Charlie in 1592!!!

Wake up Take That !!!

Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:11 pm

Is there something in the water tonight?

Whats making you sooooooo tetchy 2nite Salster?

canUsmellthat · Post by **canUsmellthat** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:18 pm

SS, you've really got it in for me! You've not found my identity out have you? You're not that little fag I gave a roasting to in school?

Play nice man/woman/thing, all this negativity just won't do - you're upsetting poor Eric!

moonraker · Post by **moonraker** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:30 pm

watch what you say canyousmellthat..i think SS got hard time in school dont know about roasting though

canUsmellthat · Post by **canUsmellthat** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:43 pm

D’yi think it was the ex SS outfit?

DosCerveza · Post by **DosCerveza** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:58 pm

What's wrong woth foreshore fencing.......I prefer a sabre myself

Seil Sally · Post by **Seil Sally** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:35 pm

Usmell - it comes as no surprise that you were bullying "fags" at your school. Pity you cant accept that others can be different and have alternative opinions!

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