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It's alot better than being Salmond's sucker!

It's the Yes Campaign that makes the incredible claims.
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Innes Newton wrote:
It's the Yes Campaign that makes the incredible claims.
I don't see how you would know.

You've never bothered to look into a single one of them in any depth.

You are like some wind-up propaganda machine stuck in an endless loop.
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I don't see how you would know
I have two eyes, a nose, two ears, a mouth, a sense of feeling and a brain. Because I use all of them I try to make a habit of getting things right.
You are like some wind-up propaganda machine stuck in an endless loop
Perhaps you might think so, but the truth is always there.

You're an exile from the truth.
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You have never looked behind the headlines or had an original thought on this subject..

I am beginning to think you are a bot.

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Re: Independence and Our PensionS

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More false representation by the Yes Campaign. Adding the BetterTogether logo makes this 'sign' a complete lie.

NATO won't accept Scotland because an independent Scotland will hugely weaken NATO. NATO is a nuclear organisation heavily reliant on the nuclear deterrent based in Scotland. An independent Scotland has vowed to remove the nuclear deterrent from its soil. The Yes Campaign make Scotland in admissible to NATO, not the other way round.

The EU won't accept an independent Scotland because the EU does not support peoples/nations who fragment the EU. The EU requires all countries to abide by the rules. All new members must use the Euro and follow the same process of application for membership. UK opt outs apply to the UK not to a separate Scotland. Rebates apply to the UK, not a separate Scotland. Membership of an independent Scotland must be approved by every member and can be vetoed by any member. The UK has said it will not block an independent Scotland. It is other members of the EU that has implied an independent Scotland will not be admitted.

No one has said Scotland can't use the Pound, in the way Panama uses the US Dollar. But there will be no currency union because the other countries in the UK, Northern Ireland, Wales and England are opposed to a union which could weaken the Pound. Currency unions between independent states don't work unless there are political unions. An independent Scotland doesn't want to be in a political union with rUK.....otherwise it won't be independent.

The BBC is funded by the UK licence payers. If Scotland wants to watch the BBC they will have to pay for it just like they would buy programmes from Sky or FOX, Al Jazeera, etc, etc. It's logical.


It's not the UK saying an independent Scotland can't have these things. It's Scotland's decision NOT to have these benefits.

An independent Scotland might not be in NATO, might not use the Pound, might not be in the EU, might not receive the BBC. They are all possible downsides to independence. At last the YES Campaign is admitting there could be downsides to independence, but oh, no...hold on! No, they aren't going to say this, No, they have to twist things round and mislead the public into thinking it is Westminster and Better Together that is saying Scotland can't have them. When it is not.

It's yet another example of how the Yes Campaign uses dirty tricks to deceive and mislead the Scottish voter. It is despicable behaviour from an organisation that cannot bear to tell the people the truth. And will happily woo them into their Fool's Paradise.
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'Dirty tricks . . . ' :sigh

You really don't get irony, satire or indeed any other form of humour political or otherwise, do you Innes?

I almost feel sorry for you.
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Re: Independence and Our PensionS

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No you are right. I only see fraud in this.
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Nick you deleted my post deliberately. Yet again you shy away from the truth. Shameful. You can't face it
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