Climate change

[Pentlandpirate]

It's a while since we discussed climate change and global warming. I could never really get a grip of which was which as they initially started talking about global warming and then seemed to have quietly re-branded it as 'climate change'. I got a little lost trying to keep up with those anti-nuclear, environmental socialists with their unproven theories and name changing, but I am right aren't I that global warming/climate change thingy meant the human race was doomed to die within a few generations? I must admit my failure to grasp the seriousness of the situation led to me being ridiculed and I really ought to have got as terrified as everyone else. Terrified people have obviously been prepared to allow huge amounts of public money to be spent to save the planet. Someone somewhere must have done very nicely out of that fear.

But there hasn't been much about global warming/climate change recently has there? I wonder why? Could it be that they are beginning to discover that what they thought was definitely going to happen, simply isn't? You take a look around.

[MonaLott]

Away and do some basic reading for P's sake! e.g. this week's New Scientist magazine - Antarctic ice sheets melting fast, increase in superstorm incidence, collapse of world's coffee growing industry due to climate change etc etc..

[Pentlandpirate]

I did! And I believed it all!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... ng-up.html

[Innes Newton]

It seems I was right, and the world was conned.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/book ... evers.html

Now do you want to see my latest prediction on Scottish Independence and how a nation is being conned?

[NickB]

It seems I was right, and the world was conned.

erm . . . no, Innes . . . that is a newspaper article, not a peer-reviewed scientific paper.

If you insist on discussing the subject you should take the time to learn to tell the difference.

[Innes Newton]

I'll tell you a fact. Humans make mistakes. Now I know some scientists can look and act a bit weird, but they are essentially human, some of the time. But scientists have been making mistakes for thousands of years, which is sometimes how they discovered things.

I accept that an overwhelming voice of science opinion used to say we were all about to perish due to global warming, but this is changing. People are beginning to point out we are being conned. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... Moore.html
and http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ssier.html

The trouble is that governments and big business are so locked into the global warming issue they cannot easily extract themselves not least because so much money and jobs are now tied up in saving the world. But it is their credibility at stake too. Look at Scotland's beautiful countryside now being ruined by hugely inefficient, massively expensive, short-termist wind farms. Scotland and others have been sold a pup.

But I will be told I have no facts on this. Some say you can only believe the peer-reviewed scientific papers, you can't believe you read in newspapers. Well, well, I disagree, it's probably more the other way round. If it wasn't for investigative journalism there would be so many unsavoury truths that would never reach our ears.

What is it Nick (the fact finder) that makes you insist you can only follow a thought process based on facts, yet when it comes to politics you can blindly follow the Yes Campaign which is short on facts and long on fantasy and pie in the sky?

[NickB]

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More fact-free hot air.